Kenya Barris in verbal exchange with Tyler, the creator: “Why can’t we tell our stories?

Tyler, the designer and Kenya Barris grew up in the same suburb of Los Angeles. As an independent rapper and hip-hop agitator, Tyler has spent a decade creating music that pushes barriers and buttons. As a writer, director and manufacturer he demonstrates this, as Black-ish and the film Girls Trip, Barris has won praise from audiences and critics, and both show a preference for shape a culture where everyone can find the freedom to be themselves.

Kenya Barris: One of my security guards takes care of the security of his Golf Wang store [in Los Angeles]. He was watching his tweet about Black Fury after the window was destroyed by protests. What did this mean to you? I’m sure your white friends called you, “Hey, man, I just wanted to tell you I’m sorry. “

Tyler, the designer: My store can be repaired. I’m not too attached. It was a terrible time, but there was a bit of humour: other people said to me, like, “Are you okay?”It’s a fault they still had a lot of smart intentions. won tweets and comments from white teens that said, “You have to say anything. “I say, “What do you want?” I’m over six feet tall. I’m dark. You see one’s lips. Those broad shoulders. How dare you tell me to say something about me?

KB: People will have an opinion about their position in this area, and have never had a position in this area. I still have to ask permission to make a fuss about my other people. It’s counter-intuitive. White people can tell [their] stories to the full, no matter what they choose. You get everyone from Wes Anderson to David Fincher and Spike Jonze. You get so many versions of whiteness. We have five stories: crime, slavery, the neighborhood, “I don’t have a man” and “I’m looking to get out of the ghetto. “

And a biographical film of a hero. Why can’t we tell our stories?

TTC: Everyone thinks of Los Angeles are lowriders and gang culture. We’d run on a skateboard and dress up as Supreme, get into photography and Tim Burton. We want other people to know that it’s also a component of L. A. When other people don’t allow you to use your voice, you make your way. That’s what I did.

KB: I grew up skating too. But we’re monolithic.

TTC: I love seeing black people running now with orange hair and portrayed on their fingernails, but in 2003?Lol

KB: What you are part of in childbirth is the acceptance of diversity and varied ideas. It has helped create a way for young people to be themselves. It’s still forming. I did an exhibition on Netflix this year #blackAF, the most productive and worst party of my life.

TTC: I enjoyed the fourth or fifth episode, with that speech that Tyler Perry gave, is one of the moments I like, that’s how I feel since I was born, when I started at 18, the goal of questioning everything well, with, because we’re all different.

KB: What you did was a lyrical satire. With my show, because the demographics were a little older, I don’t think minds are that open. It’s like, “It’s not a genuine black family. ” I say, “This is my family!”It’s a challenge that we can’t extend beyond what other people are used to seeing us. That’s the goal of my career: to advance verbal exchange and culture.

TTC: Not everyone realizes that they are living in a bubble. You were doing Black-ish and you were making this kind of black circle of relatives very strong. Look at Black-ish and look at Junior’s character, I’ve joined that.

KB: We think constantly, keep your head down, avoid problems. White culture allows for loose ideas much more than ours. We didn’t make it until we criticized each other.

Moderated through Raisa Bruner

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