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Stanford GSB Dean Jonathan Levin on the effect of the pandemic on Stanford, his MBA academics and the long-term business education
On September 1, Jonathan Levin will be Dean of Stanford Business School for 4 full years. One night this week, the 47-year-old economist sat down for a long and illuminating podcast interview with a school alumni, Benjamin Kohlmann, McKinsey and Co. Kohlmann’s director of engagement, earned his Stanford MBA for 3 years. Ago. 2017, having arrived on campus a year before the start of the dean of Levin. He enrolled in school after a successful career in the army, completing 32 combat missions and making more than 300 landings on American aircraft carriers.
Levin’s interview, in Kohlmann’s Random Walk podcast series, covers a wide variety of topics, from the highest life trends that have had an effect on business education in recent years to the price of back-to-school during an era of major global change. Levin also explained how the transition to e-learning is likely to have a lasting effect on higher education, what the school is doing to combat racial inequality, and how MBA academics have redesigned the critical extracurricular component of the MBA at the time Stanford’s online learning changed in the spring.
The interview with Dean Jonathan Levin took position from a podcast series entitled A Random Walk with Ben Kohlmann
Among other things, Levin established an organization in execution last spring to reflect on the long-term effect of the pandemic called the running organization Beyond COVID. Among his observations, a virtual environment allows for a “time extension” of learning and construction relationships because, as Levin observes, “it is less difficult to stay in touch with others before or after they leave the physical environment of the campus. example: Stanford began interacting with this fall’s new MBA cohort 8 weeks before orientation. Levin plans to make significant investments in using the generation for lifelong learning to help alumni stay connected to Stanford long after graduation.
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While Stanford will begin the fall quarter primarily online, with only a few face-to-face courses, most MBA fellows will be at least on campus. “I’m concerned about students who attend schools that start 100 percent remotely and students don’t have a physical unit,” he says. How will you meet people? How are they going to make friends? It’s going to be a big challenge for everyone. »
Levin made it clear that he believed firmly in the continued price of the two-year residential MBA experience, which he said is more like an educational “telescope” than a PhD. what Levin describes most as a “microscope.” “Someone who does a PhD gets this incredibly resilient microscope to get close to an express set of knowledge,” he says. “In my case, it’s economics. In an MBA program like Stanford’s, it’s like giving someone an incredibly resilient telescope. You simply open the opening to see all those probabilities and give them the ability to pass in so many directions. This price does not go away. It won’t go away if we do it online for a year or a quarter. It’s just a difficult price proposition.’
The interview comes at a time of unprecedented uncertainty in the world, in the United States and in higher education. In a recent assembly with students in the city corridor, Levin explains, the anxiety and anxiety of the students were tangible. “You just need to know how it’s going to work?” He says. “We are all entering a new world of going to school in a pandemic. They need to see how we will ensure their protection and how they will get to know their peers and teachers. What they’d like is certainty. How long is this going to last? “He’s like everyone else. Unfortunately, this is something that is very unlikely to be achieved right now, which makes the scenario complicated for everyone.”
The following is a revised transcript of the interview:
Kohlmann: Stanford took a fairly vital resolution on the 24th to move from a hybrid style to an almost remote style. Can that resolution process?
Levin: We’ve been thinking about the fall semester since mid-spring and created an organization of academics, staff and professors who were making college-wide plans for the fall. We knew we were going to bring our students back to campus even though many undergraduate establishments don’t bring their students back at all. We had them on campus the spring in a pretty safe way and it worked very well. After completing a quarter of the courses completely online in the spring, it was transparent that academics and college actually lacked a combination and a combination in person. We tried to do everything we could to adapt to that, while understanding that the first priority had to be the aptitude and protection of the community.
We have spent much of the last two months looking to expand hybrid learning methods, with some academics in elegance and the other in line, with a rotation system. And in August, California published its higher education rules and regulations in California right now are so that your county’s in-house training isn’t on the state’s watch list. Our county, Santa Clara, has been on the watch list since July. Therefore, we are not allowed to teach the user indoors. So we’re spending to start the quarter with virtual elegance and some elegance, then there will be opportunities for working hours and interactions. I hope we pass out and make more of a hybrid model.
Stanford also took the resolution a few weeks ago not to bring college students back to campus. So, one of the things that will take up position on campus during the fall period is that the surroundings will be much more scattered. There will be relatively few academics and many others fleeing home. And we have in-position verification protocols for academics, staff and teachers. It’s going to be a college year like no one’s ever lived before. Our students are just beginning to arrive and we will have to do everything we can to remain others while we proceed to have a fair educational experience, which is the goal.
Kohlmann: How did the organization design to find out what to do in the school year?
All higher education institutions, as well as K-12 schools, have the same questions: how is a school run? What is rooted in the way we do things is the concept of bringing an academic organization to campus, attracting a teacher organization and putting them close. And much of the magic happens that way. When we made the decision to think about it, one of the things we sought to think about was how much we could have this life interaction and marry it with fitness and safety. That’s what everyone is suffering. We have an incredibly talented academic organization. They’re the perfect challenge solvers. We’re looking for a lot of student engagement. We had two student leaders in our executive organization who did an amazing task with the participation of academics. We had an organization of teachers who were fantastic. There have been many college inventions in coaching with the transition to virtual. And all the staff to do our comforts and ours to train and learn. This is the organization we have created, led by two of our senior deans. They met weekly for months and consulted extensively with Stanford physical care experts who were phenomenal. That was necessarily the procedure we did. And we had to be incredibly adaptable because of state and county conversion guidelines. Obviously, we have to stick to the regulations of some. The county has been a very smart spouse for Stanford. We have quite strict regulations here, but it has worked well from a fitness point of view.
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Kohlmann: One of the stories in the media is the discrepancy between how students need to interact on campus and how teachers should worry on campus. How did you balance the wishes of academics and college to make this decision?
Levin: There is a wonderful heterogeneity in tolerance for other people’s threats and their convenience to faint and participate in public. Drive in parts of California and see others behaving with other degrees of convenience to faint and interact. Some of this breaks with age. In general, academics are much less threatened and, of course, more comfortable. But not all of them. Some scholars are concerned and rightly concerned because they have physical fitness disorders or respiratory disorders. Some are really very worried and you have to be susceptible to them. And for our university, there are many variations. We told our university what the students would like, but we also told them we wouldn’t force them to do anything they weren’t comfortable with. Some of our teachers need to teach in a practical way because it is a safer environment and some of them really need to go back and interact with students. They love that component of their work. They need to be in the mix and be with the academics and we have tried to accommodate others as productive as possible, subject to the state and county regulations that make our decisions for us.
Kohlmann: Explain to us when you saw the number of COVID instances accumulating in March and you had to take the resolution to pass online.
It was on our radar screen. We were thinking about the pandemic, and then, in March, when we started having local cases, we took the resolution at Stanford to pass online and basically did it on a Friday night and they were all online on Monday morning. It was crazy, but it was quite surprising to see the adaptability of the people. On Saturday morning, we created a Google sheet with all categories and asked all teachers how they would attach themselves and what they would do and whether they can do it. How they would do it. I saw the Google sheet fill up in real time. I sat there and looked at our university that came here and one said, “I did a lot of online training. I have experience. No problem.” Another user came in and said: “I haven’t used Zoom on Monday tomorrow tomorrow I’ll know how to do it. They gave it to me.” Everyone said uniformly, “I can take care of this. I can do it, I can perceive it.” And of course they did. It was very inspiring to see that happen. Our thanks to our teachers and staff for themselves and our students for their incredible adaptability to make such a transition.
Stanford GSB dean Jon Levin when an occasional person was canceled due to the pandemic and had to organize the online consultation from campus
“WE ARE IN THIS PERIOD OF EXTRAORDINARY FORCED INNOVATION”
Kohlmann: What have you seen in the field of innovation that you have done to make the courses interactive and to offer the same content as before?
Levin: One of the strengths of this delight that was obvious from the beginning was that it was an incredible disruption for business schools and higher education and a massive sadness for academics eagerly awaiting so many interactions within the user. It is very unlikely that you will get out of this sadness and backhand. But at the same time, it was an incredible pleasure. And all of us in the world have noticed the strength of the generation to bring other people into combination online. Now we are in this age of ordinary forced innovation in which you just have to locate things to make them work. When the pandemic ends, some of our teachers should start doing what they used to do as a user with academics. And for some, it’s a revelation. There are things you can do with the generation that are others and, in some cases, better.
We use Zoom as a platform and thank them for saving us and the founder of Zoom is an alumnus of Stanford GSB. What many teachers do is use subcommittee rooms. We know for 30 years of school studies that active learning, where other people communicate and interact, is more wonderful than sitting down and listening to someone communicate. It’s hard to divide other people into small teams of 4 and some other organization of 4 in a physical classroom. But you can do it online and that’s a wonderful thing.
Another is the cat. When I was teaching, I never allowed students to use computers in the hall of elegance. It was too much competition. He couldn’t compete with Facebook and his email account and YouTube and everything in between. Then they couldn’t have their screens. I never looked for that. But now you see that in meetings and in rooms of elegance, having other people in verbal exchange is fantastic. People communicate with an elegance that would otherwise have been quiet. This causes many more voices and many more people to emerge by answering other people’s questions. it’s a wonderful way to have interaction in multimodality.
Another is the speakers. We bring many guest speakers to the courses. It’s a feature of the courses. If you need to bring someone from the East Coast, you must fly all over the country. They have to finish the whole day and they have to move home. It’s a big problem. You must take them to Zoom, they can enter and it is 30 minutes of their day. It’s sensational. We’ll locate the tactics according to the way we normally teach at the end of the pandemic. There will be many opportunities that will arise from this delight because everyone innovates and experiments at the same time.
I was on a call with an organization of our elders before today for an hour and there were other people from 4 continents on the call. How would we have combined this organization before? We have planned a year’s notice to send everyone to Stanford for an assembly like this and can now send them an invitation a few days in advance and others take the time to log in. What a wonderful way to unite everyone.
We had a working group to make plans for the fall that had been created to think about short-term issues. And the other organization we created in the spring was an organization to think long-term about the effects of the pandemic. We call it the Beyond Covid task. It still works and is an alumni and teacher organization. And they reflected on the opportunities created through the acceleration of the Internet. If you think about the perspective of online education or virtual learning, you’ll get a geographic expansion. We understand that. And you get an extension of scale. You can do online education for more than just in-person education.
The other they did is that they can have an extension of time because it is less difficult to stay connected with other people before or after they leave the physical environment of the campus. For example, this year with our incoming students, we began to engage with them and have meetings 8 weeks before orientation, which we usually expect for guidance. This has implications for lifelong learning to help others stay connected to a school after graduation. There is a lot more likely if everyone is used to using a virtual environment. They can connect anywhere they live and go. I think that’s all we’re going to make significant investments to have noticed that potential. It was an engaging learning pleasure about what you’re going to imagine in education.
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Benjamin Kohlmann, director of Stanford’s MBA and McKinsey mission
Kohlmann: What’s unique to business school is classmates and the merit of having another 407 Stanford academics coming from around the world and the benefits you get from mind collision and outdoor reports in the classroom. How do you innovate to create this similar environment?
Levin: In the spring, we had an organization of academics who already knew each other. When they were forced to move online, there were incredible limitations on what they could do in terms of being together. They were incredibly inventive. We had an academic organization called Team Positivity Contagion. Like Stanford, they released T-shirts and organized two hundred to three hundred virtual occasions during the quarter and invited alumni and speakers. It was amazing and really impressive in terms of networking and kindness… Of course, it’s also a lesson from the pandemic. We’re in all this together. What happens to be more complicated is how other people are going to build new relationships online. One smart thing for us to have students on campus is that students will be able to interact off-campus. I’m involved with students who are in schools that start 100 percent remotely and students don’t have a physical unit. How will you meet other people? How are they going to make friends? It’s going to be a big challenge for everyone.
Kohlmann: I know you had a student in the city corridor last week. Were there any key topics academics talked about for the next quarter?
Levin: Do you just need to know how it’s going to work? We’re all entering a new world of going to school like a pandemic. They need to see how we will ensure their protection and how they will get to know their peers and teachers. What they’d like is certainty. How long is this going to last? He’s like everyone else. This is something that, unfortunately, is very unlikely to be achieved right now, which makes the scenario difficult for everyone.
Kohlmann: Even before COVID, did we see that some of the low-end business markets were moving slowly? How do you see the economic effects of entering tuition fees into the business market and what will be the long-term effect?
Levin: If we go back before COVID, there were at least two very important trends in advertising education. One of them has been the decline in the popularity of MBA residence systems for two years, and has even noticed some schools suspending their two-year MBA systems in residence. The moment when the big trend is going in the opposite direction. This is a major expansion of the general call for business education: the call for lifelong learning, the demand for online education and more flexible and shorter systems, as well as undergraduate business education have a considerably greater increase. So there has been a replacement in the way other people need to expand professional skills and make them succeed at work, and then maintain and update one’s skills over time. At Stanford, we saw a little of those two things. We have noticed a strong demand for online systems and pass-through systems. The online game has been accelerated with COVID and the in-person game is now closed.
The vintage two-year residential MBA has an incredible price. Where does the price come from? It comes from a number of things. This comes from obtaining a skill set and building a relationship set. It basically comes from being in an environment for two years that only opens your openness to the world. You just see more possibilities.
The metaphor I like about this is one that contrasts my own training, a PhD, with an MBA. Someone who’s doing a PhD. receives this incredibly sturdy microscope to simply approach an express set of knowledge. In my case, it’s economics. In an MBA program like Stanford’s, it’s like giving someone an incredibly resilient telescope. Simply open your open to see all those odds and give them the skills to move in so many directions. This price does not go away. It will also not happen if we do it online for a year or a quarter. It’s just a tough price proposition. I am sure of myself at this price, however, the market in general is softening.
Stanford Graduate School of Business
“THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE ONLINE WILL BE VERY POWERFUL”
Kohlmann: What do you think in terms of expanding Stanford’s presence and education in a post-COVID world?
I’ll give you a point of knowledge. We ran a one-year online program in which you take the fundamental program instead of the courses of your selection and had our biggest cohort in the spring. And in the fall, it’s quite imaginable that it’s 50% bigger than the spring cohort, just because there are more people interested and more people who have time to be enjoyed and more people who connect comfortably online.
Kohlmann: What is the number of MBA applicants for 2021?
Levin: By next year, other people have to take the decision to file an application amid a pandemic. This can also be cut in other ways. When the economy slows and there are fewer opportunities, it’s time to go back to school. Everything is limited right now. The global paintings are limited. Education is limited. You could argue that this is a good time to go back to school. This is a smart time to invest in yourself when there are fewer opportunities and possibly more wonderful at the end of school. At a time when the global is incredibly turning, being in a position like Stanford is a wonderful position in a moment of profound change. You have all those other people who are interested in thinking about what’s going on. How will the global change? What’s another one? What will be the new opportunities? This gives you the ability to reflect and perceive all this before going in a new direction or continuing in the direction you need to take.
Kohlmann: How do you feel about the difficulties foreign academics face lately?
Levin: It was a very difficult time for foreign academics in the United States, whether it’s for academics who need to come to the United States and for academics who are here and thinking about a job. Travel restrictions and visa restrictions are becoming very quickly. I think it’s a very complicated scenario. We will have interns who will be deferred and some that will start this fall and who have not been able to obtain a visa before the start of the period. Then they’re going to be started remotely, and then they’re going to come when they can. We’ll do everything we can to help those academics. It’s an unfortunate thing. One of the benefits of being in a position like Stanford GSB is that you’re surrounded by other people around the world. You put this aggregate in combination and it’s incredibly powerful. Having this interrupted is really disappointing. I hope we’ll go back to a stage to welcome other people from all over the world.
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Kohlmann: Another challenge he faced this summer’s work. I won an email in April asking for help creating student sites. How did it work?
Levin: The place of the labor market is complicated and the place of the internship market is complicated. I wrote to alumni in April because we felt we needed to create 150 internships and full-time task opportunities. The reaction of our elders simply unbelievable. Our students ended up creating something like three hundred homework opportunities. So it’s amazing. Look, you have a crisis and one thing you need to see is that the network you’re a part of comes in combination and other people help each other. It’s a wonderful example of that.
Kohlmann: In 2016, when I was MBA2 here, you were thrown straight into the fire. There was a complicated scenario, the dean’s transition. Things were going wrong in Ferguson, so there was a lot of discussion on campus about racial conflicts. And obviously, in the middle of COVID, we had the murder of George Floyd in June, which caused a total series of demanding situations besides COVID. What is Stanford doing on the front lines of diversity?
Levin: When you were a GSB student, social upheaval and social inequalities were at the center of concerns. We had the stage in Ferguson which was incredibly traumatic and then immigration issues. And this year, if the pandemic anything, just exposed the inequalities in our society in terms of education, physical condition and race. We’ve noticed it so obviously this spring. Police violence and the Black Lives Matter demonstration and we’re seeing it now in Kenosha. When I started in this position, I learned to appreciate much more the importance of establishments like Stanford playing an active role in helping the country move forward in the event of a crisis.
WHAT CAN SCHOOL DO TO HELP THE ENTIRE COUNTRY ADVANCE RACIANA INEQUALITY?
When we had the murder of George Flood and the other episodes of police violence in the spring, it provoked much discussion on our campus among students, teachers, staff and alumni about what was going on. But also what the school can do to help not only our community, but also to help the whole country move forward to perceive what happened. Thinking about solutions, thinking about what would be constructive and how we can move to a scenario where we have less racism opposed to other black people in this country and more equity, more opportunities and more racial justice. This happened in the midst of COVID and we spent a lot of time talking to other people about it. In mid-summer, we presented an action plan for racial equity with a set of goals and aspirations to build black representation on campus and have a more inclusive environment on campus and contribute to a broader society beyond campus. this and now we’re looking to execute it. We have some attractive things on this front that I’m proud of.
Kohlmann: What are some of the specific movements you need to make?
Levin: I’ll mention some. Some have to do with the school’s jolgorio. For example, we teach with case studies and guest speakers, and others who are represented in those case studies or who come to speak pass through other people’s networks and those networks tend to look like them. That’s why we’re doing more to expand the organization of other people who come before our students.
This summer, Stanford University announced a very ambitious study of professors to recruit professors who are interested in the effect of race in the United States. I hope this will help the entire university to strengthen in this area.
And we’re going to do anything on the front lines of monetary aid that I hope will be vital to us. Many of our academics get monetary help to help them come to GSB. This is one of the things that is helping us build a wide and rich elegance of background and experience. We provide monetary assistance based on an individual’s income, assets and cases. We will present another set of monetary assistance that is based on the history of the family circle to reflect the cases where other people come from. We believe that this deserves to have an effect on racial equity, because one of the well-known facts about the distribution of wealth in our society is that there is a huge racial disparity in intergenerational wealth. We will face this challenge and the overall challenge of wealth inequality in this country, which disadvantages many others early in their lives.
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